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		<title>By: Neal Wiser</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-14223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neal Wiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 17:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve missed the most obvious reason; time. Building and curating a community is a time consuming process. At the ODM Group, we&#039;re slowly building our own Facebook and Twitter presence, but the client and their needs come first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve missed the most obvious reason; time. Building and curating a community is a time consuming process. At the ODM Group, we&#8217;re slowly building our own Facebook and Twitter presence, but the client and their needs come first.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Gass</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-13392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Gass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree price is an issue. All I was trying to convey with #1 is build relationships first. To many try to sell themselves right off the bat. It&#039;s like being at a Chamber meeting and the first thing you do is whip out an agency brochure and stick it in someone&#039;s face. The first step is to connect with someone on a personal level. As I said, people want to work with other people that they know, like and trust.

I address pricing in a number of other posts that I&#039;ve written. Social media has to be monetized. I&#039;ve been writing from the position of &#039;fueling your agency&#039;s new business through social media.&#039; And I&#039;ve been able to monetize social for the past 4 years. It drives all of my new business.

Pricing social to me isn&#039;t that difficult. It&#039;s very time intensive. It&#039;s much easier to price through a retainer agreement. Agencies would be able to develop their internal processes to efficiently deliver social media services for clients and increase these types of account&#039;s networth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree price is an issue. All I was trying to convey with #1 is build relationships first. To many try to sell themselves right off the bat. It&#8217;s like being at a Chamber meeting and the first thing you do is whip out an agency brochure and stick it in someone&#8217;s face. The first step is to connect with someone on a personal level. As I said, people want to work with other people that they know, like and trust.</p>
<p>I address pricing in a number of other posts that I&#8217;ve written. Social media has to be monetized. I&#8217;ve been writing from the position of &#8216;fueling your agency&#8217;s new business through social media.&#8217; And I&#8217;ve been able to monetize social for the past 4 years. It drives all of my new business.</p>
<p>Pricing social to me isn&#8217;t that difficult. It&#8217;s very time intensive. It&#8217;s much easier to price through a retainer agreement. Agencies would be able to develop their internal processes to efficiently deliver social media services for clients and increase these types of account&#8217;s networth.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-12930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other issue is price, and I know you addressed it in #1, but I don&#039;t mean gouging. Agencies know how to charge for a print ad or a TV spot because there is a beginning, a middle and an end. The client knows what they pay for those things too, so everyone is happy. 

With a community, there is a beginning and no end. Is it a retainer? Is it performance based -- whereby the agency is paid on a scale depending on success? Is it a cost to set up, then and hourly rate to manage (3 hours a week at a typical agency rate adds up fast). 

All of the things you listed here are right (although I clearly disagree with the way you framed #1). I also think you&#039;re right that agencies have to crack this. We have content creators who should be able to engage communities, so maybe we will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other issue is price, and I know you addressed it in #1, but I don&#8217;t mean gouging. Agencies know how to charge for a print ad or a TV spot because there is a beginning, a middle and an end. The client knows what they pay for those things too, so everyone is happy. </p>
<p>With a community, there is a beginning and no end. Is it a retainer? Is it performance based &#8212; whereby the agency is paid on a scale depending on success? Is it a cost to set up, then and hourly rate to manage (3 hours a week at a typical agency rate adds up fast). </p>
<p>All of the things you listed here are right (although I clearly disagree with the way you framed #1). I also think you&#8217;re right that agencies have to crack this. We have content creators who should be able to engage communities, so maybe we will.</p>
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		<title>By: FUEL LINES Fueling Ad Agency New Business Through Social Media</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-10723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FUEL LINES Fueling Ad Agency New Business Through Social Media]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Starmark Vacation Homes</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-6564</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Starmark Vacation Homes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 00:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent! 

Jane
Starmark Vacation Homes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent! </p>
<p>Jane<br />
Starmark Vacation Homes</p>
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		<title>By: The Top 50 Ad Agency New Business Articles &#171; FUEL LINES Fueling Ad Agency New Business Through Social Media</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-5549</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Is Anyone Out There Listening? - Febuary 12, 2010 &#124; In The Loop</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-4647</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to your customers,” are we really supposed to believe that they want to be our “friends”?? Even public relations firms struggle with the idea of how to create online “community” so don’t be surprised if your real-life friends turn out to be more loyal and compassionate than [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to your customers,” are we really supposed to believe that they want to be our “friends”?? Even public relations firms struggle with the idea of how to create online “community” so don’t be surprised if your real-life friends turn out to be more loyal and compassionate than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-2475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would recommend trying out Adollo. They are fairly new but they have a really good platform set up. They are a social advertising network that ranks ads and ad spaces according to how the world uses them. They also don&#039;t do Cost per Click. Instead, they let publishers rent out ad spaces to advertisers. I&#039;ve been using them and I&#039;ve been really impressed. They are also giving out $25 of free credit if you feel like advertising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend trying out Adollo. They are fairly new but they have a really good platform set up. They are a social advertising network that ranks ads and ad spaces according to how the world uses them. They also don&#8217;t do Cost per Click. Instead, they let publishers rent out ad spaces to advertisers. I&#8217;ve been using them and I&#8217;ve been really impressed. They are also giving out $25 of free credit if you feel like advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Top 25 Ad Agency New Business Articles &#171; FUEL LINES Fueling Ad Agency New Business Through Social Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 10 idées pour la semaine &#124; Manager une communauté</title>
		<link>http://fuelingnewbusiness.com/2009/04/21/5-reasons-ad-agencies-have-problems-creating-online-communities/#comment-1999</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[10 idées pour la semaine &#124; Manager une communauté]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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